Fuck the Drivenazi

"Bandit" (2bandit) 12/10/2013 at 21:12 • Filed to: allstate

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I was filming a piece for my school on safe winter driving and the Drivenazi program from Allstate registered all my braking as unsafe and very dagerous. Fuck the insurance industry. My car doesn't have ABS so my wheels spin, thus my speedo climbs. If I brake to stop my wheels from spinning, the speedo drops rapidly. The software reads this as very dangerous and charges me. FUCK. FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK. FUCK.

Tyler's SVT Focus Hates Him > Bandit 12/10/2013 at 21:22

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I know it's supposed to lower your rates, but if it's registering all this bullshit can it actually make your rate go up? This sounds like such a horribly flawed system.

Nick, Drives a Cobalt LT > Bandit 12/10/2013 at 21:23

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I think the system would work better in the summer lol

Do you run it for a time, or forever?

Bandit > Tyler's SVT Focus Hates Him 12/10/2013 at 21:23

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It can't, it just removes my discount. Since the thing costs $20/year to run, you would be losing money. It's bullshit and my parents refuse to change anything.

Bandit > Nick, Drives a Cobalt LT 12/10/2013 at 21:24

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You are not allowed to unplug it for more than short bits of time.

Nick, Drives a Cobalt LT > Bandit 12/10/2013 at 21:25

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what i meant was do you have it on the car for X amount of time and they base rates off of a sample, or forever and it just charges you for the current driving? Cause if its a sample time, and bases rates off that I'd do it in a heartbeat...But if it was forever I can't do that as I track my daily driver often.

Bandit > Nick, Drives a Cobalt LT 12/10/2013 at 21:27

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Forever. Stupid, I know.

. . > Bandit 12/10/2013 at 21:27

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The whole concept of that thing is incredibly flawed. How it even got past the planning stage is beyond me. Why are your parents forcing you to use that piece of garbage?

Bandit > . . 12/10/2013 at 21:28

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I honestly don't know. It causes so much stress that it really isn't worth it.

Nick, Drives a Cobalt LT > Nick, Drives a Cobalt LT 12/10/2013 at 21:29

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That is dumb....

Geico or Progressive let you run a sample time and base rates off that.

I have Allstate and if they offer it I will deny it.

Cause I'm sure seeing my car doing quarter mile sprints in around 12-13 seconds then braking from 100+ to 15 will surely charge me out the ass especially 20+ times in a night at the track

. . > Bandit 12/10/2013 at 21:30

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Maybe if a year passes and your premiums don't get any lower your parents will simply decide that it's not worth it? That'd literally be a license to hoon! :D

Tyler's SVT Focus Hates Him > Bandit 12/10/2013 at 21:32

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Have you taken them for a ride with it in, just show them how stupid the thing is? I'd do that to a) show them how much bs it is and b) in case you lose your discount, it was the system, not your driving. Or let them drive it around town, see how well they do, especially on West Lafayette's icy side streets.

Bandit > . . 12/10/2013 at 21:32

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http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2013-05-29/cla… My trans am doesn't have a computer and thus is un-monitored. I still hate the stupid system. I want to write an angry message or something to allstate

NoahthePorscheGuy > Bandit 12/10/2013 at 21:32

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Do you mean traction control? That thing really sucks dude. My dad put one in my car for a while, that wasn't connected to insurance, and it beeped whenever it detected heavy acceleration/ braking. I convinced him it kept draining my battery, because my battery kept draining ( though it was probably because of My Ford Touch), so I took it out, and swapped it for a OBII android dongle so I can use my phone as a boost gauge.

Bandit > Tyler's SVT Focus Hates Him 12/10/2013 at 21:35

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I drive them all the time. What I find stupid is they wanted a truck for winter driving so they got a 2WD SUV with non-functioning ABS. Every night when I come home I get an iPad shoved in my face with my daily report on my driving on it. I am then ridiculed on how poor of a driver I am. I am really contemplating setting up a dash cam just to show them wrong.

Bandit > NoahthePorscheGuy 12/10/2013 at 21:36

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Nope, the car doesn't have traction control. The car should have ABS but it doesn't work because some sensor is broken and causes a system failure.

. . > Bandit 12/10/2013 at 21:36

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But if it's cold and icy outside you can hoon the Blazer to your heart's content and just blame the readings on wheels spinning up/locking up. :D

Bandit > . . 12/10/2013 at 21:38

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I did! And they are still all pissed off! There is no pleasing these people. I just want my damn 33 year old car back.

zipfuel > Bandit 12/10/2013 at 21:39

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I'm with you on those devices - the big brother insurance company thing is terrifying

That said if my kid grows up to be a regular on this site I'm damn well putting a real time GPS tracker on the car and a squeaky rubber ball under the gas pedal!

Tyler's SVT Focus Hates Him > Bandit 12/10/2013 at 21:39

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I'd do something, man, maybe stick a camera facing the instrument panel too. Sounds like your parents wouldn't listen to you anyways, it's worth a shot. It's just a shitty situation you're in.

NoahthePorscheGuy > Bandit 12/10/2013 at 21:41

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I meant did you mix up ABS with Traction Control, because a lack of ABS would cause your wheels to lock up, not spin more.

Bandit > zipfuel 12/10/2013 at 21:41

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Ha, yeah. I refuse to let my brother join because then he could see all the stuff I do with my car.

Bandit > NoahthePorscheGuy 12/10/2013 at 21:42

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No... the wheels lock up when braking and spin endlessly when accelerating.

offroadkarter > Bandit 12/10/2013 at 21:42

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Doesn't that thing hook in via the OBDII port?

Why not just unplug it?

NoahthePorscheGuy > zipfuel 12/10/2013 at 21:43

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There is a device similar to the one Insurance companies use for concerned parents. My dad tried it on me for a while.

Bandit > offroadkarter 12/10/2013 at 21:43

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It knows if you do that and then the thing gets all pissed off and alerts you/slashes your discounts.

. . > Bandit 12/10/2013 at 21:43

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Damn. That is a bad situation. I feel for you, man. I'm really glad I don't have such issues.

Maybe the solution is to 'accidentally' knock the stupid thing out of the socket with your knee while getting in or out of the car, have it fall on the ground, and then drive over it when you're leaving? :D You'd probably have to live through hell with your parents, but at least you'd have automotive freedom.

NoahthePorscheGuy > Bandit 12/10/2013 at 21:44

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right. Also can we see the video when your done :P

Bandit > . . 12/10/2013 at 21:44

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Ha! Brilliant... if only

. . > Bandit 12/10/2013 at 21:47

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You have to fight this for all of us Opponauts! We can't have the few joys of winter taken from away us by those stupid devices! Winter without wheelspins sucks!

offroadkarter > Bandit 12/10/2013 at 22:09

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This is not a planet I want to live on!

Bandit > offroadkarter 12/10/2013 at 22:10

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Right?! This thing has ruined my evening.

bhardoin > Bandit 12/10/2013 at 22:23

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Out of curiousity... you could figure out which pins on OBD are power while the car's off, right? So, could you add a switch to disconnect it from your OBD but still power it so it thinks its still in your car and your car is turned off? Keep it on for "safe" commuting, and bypass it for Sunday drives and the like?

bhardoin > bhardoin 12/10/2013 at 22:24

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NOTE that the above is insurance fraud and could get you into deep shit.

Bandit > bhardoin 12/10/2013 at 22:25

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I've thought about it, but haven't looked into it yet.

bhardoin > Bandit 12/10/2013 at 22:33

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To me, it seems like when your car turns off, the device must be unable to communicate with the ECU etc... but it probably still gets 12V from the OBD on the same circuit as your clock and stuff. So you could probably install a switch/switches that cuts off the other pins on the OBD.

Nothing could possibly go wrong, right?

desertdog5051 > Bandit 12/10/2013 at 22:46

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That whole thing is so f—ked up. Drive Nazi is a great term for it.

Montalvo > Bandit 12/10/2013 at 22:49

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I just wouldn't even bother with that crap. It is a flawed piece of technology designed to give you the illusion that you will save money if you use it. Hope this cheers you up a bit.

http://www.comedycentral.com/video-clips/f1…

Stef Schrader > Bandit 12/11/2013 at 00:00

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As I said earlier...

The Dictatorship of Cocolandia will have none of this crap.

None. Of. It.

Also, we like bunnies. And ice cream. And burnouts.